Post by ResLight on Dec 12, 2014 17:39:59 GMT -5
One has stated to me in another forum that rather than breaking down the original Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek, as I do, that the poster has concluded, as well as that of recognized and generally accepted Biblical Scholars, is that Jesus is God, and that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are in agreement. I am editing my response for presentation here:
It does seem to me such would be limiting oneself and putting faith in man's tradition as presented by "generally accepted Bible Scholars" who have used the spirit of human imagination in order to formulate assumptions which, in turn, are presented as dogma that has to be added to, and read into, the scriptures. Many do not wish to be bothered with the details of what the Bible actually does say in the Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic, and feel more comfortable with their traditions and putting their faith in man's self-proclaimed orthodoxy. Such, if they persist in this attitude, must wait until the age to come to fully understand and be led to the waters of life in that age, after the bride of Christ has been selected (Revelation 7:17; 22:17), which of course, means that they have missed obtaining the prize of their calling. For those interested, I am presenting my response, as briefly as possible, with hopes to ignite the love for the spirit of truth to investigate further:
I believe that Jesus is the Son of God. What does "God" mean in the expression "Son of God"? Does it mean that Jesus is the Son of three persons? No, it means that "God" is one person and Jesus is the son of that one person. The default conclusion form this is that Jesus is not "God" who is spoken all through the scriptures as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Should we use the spirit of human imagination so as to add an assumption to the scripture that "God" in the expression "Son of God", actually means one person of three persons who are all "God"? I have no reason to do so. The Bible is completely in harmony with itself without adding such a thought to the scriptures. Adding the trinitarian dogma to the scriptures throws the Bible into disharmony.
The Bible never uses the expression "God the Son," but it does many times speak of the "Son of God." Jesus claimed to be the Son of the unipersonal God; he never once claimed to be the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Throughout the New Testament, the word "God", when applied to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, speaks of only one person, the God and Father of Jesus, is always distinguished from the Son of God. For easy to recognize examples, see: Acts 3:13-26; Hebrews 1:1,2; Revelation 1:1. One does indeed have to use the spirit of human imagination so as to assume, add to, and read into the scriptures that Jesus is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
See:
The God (Supreme Being) of Jesus
jesus-rlbible.com/?p=263
The Unipersonal God Speaks Through His Son
jesus-rlbible.com/?p=772
Revelation 1:1,8 and the Unipersonal God
jesus-rlbible.com/?p=1393.html
I believe that the unipersonal God, and the Son of the unipersonal God, and the holy spirit of the unipersonal God are all in agreement. This does not mean that "God" really means one God-person, and the that the "Son of God" is another God-person, and that the holy spiriit of God is another God-person, all whom are are "God". I have no reason to imagine, assume, and add to the scriptures any the idea of three persons in one God.
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I plan, God willing, to eventually update this with more information and repost it to:
jesus-rlbible.com/?p=6304
It does seem to me such would be limiting oneself and putting faith in man's tradition as presented by "generally accepted Bible Scholars" who have used the spirit of human imagination in order to formulate assumptions which, in turn, are presented as dogma that has to be added to, and read into, the scriptures. Many do not wish to be bothered with the details of what the Bible actually does say in the Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic, and feel more comfortable with their traditions and putting their faith in man's self-proclaimed orthodoxy. Such, if they persist in this attitude, must wait until the age to come to fully understand and be led to the waters of life in that age, after the bride of Christ has been selected (Revelation 7:17; 22:17), which of course, means that they have missed obtaining the prize of their calling. For those interested, I am presenting my response, as briefly as possible, with hopes to ignite the love for the spirit of truth to investigate further:
I believe that Jesus is the Son of God. What does "God" mean in the expression "Son of God"? Does it mean that Jesus is the Son of three persons? No, it means that "God" is one person and Jesus is the son of that one person. The default conclusion form this is that Jesus is not "God" who is spoken all through the scriptures as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Should we use the spirit of human imagination so as to add an assumption to the scripture that "God" in the expression "Son of God", actually means one person of three persons who are all "God"? I have no reason to do so. The Bible is completely in harmony with itself without adding such a thought to the scriptures. Adding the trinitarian dogma to the scriptures throws the Bible into disharmony.
The Bible never uses the expression "God the Son," but it does many times speak of the "Son of God." Jesus claimed to be the Son of the unipersonal God; he never once claimed to be the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Throughout the New Testament, the word "God", when applied to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, speaks of only one person, the God and Father of Jesus, is always distinguished from the Son of God. For easy to recognize examples, see: Acts 3:13-26; Hebrews 1:1,2; Revelation 1:1. One does indeed have to use the spirit of human imagination so as to assume, add to, and read into the scriptures that Jesus is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
See:
The God (Supreme Being) of Jesus
jesus-rlbible.com/?p=263
The Unipersonal God Speaks Through His Son
jesus-rlbible.com/?p=772
Revelation 1:1,8 and the Unipersonal God
jesus-rlbible.com/?p=1393.html
I believe that the unipersonal God, and the Son of the unipersonal God, and the holy spirit of the unipersonal God are all in agreement. This does not mean that "God" really means one God-person, and the that the "Son of God" is another God-person, and that the holy spiriit of God is another God-person, all whom are are "God". I have no reason to imagine, assume, and add to the scriptures any the idea of three persons in one God.
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I plan, God willing, to eventually update this with more information and repost it to:
jesus-rlbible.com/?p=6304
