No Salvation Until Russell?

Regarding the ransom for all, one has given Romans 5:10 and Ephesians 2:13. Although I am not sure why these scriptures were presented, I assume that they are thought in some way to negate the thought that unbelievers will be saved.

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I do believe that all who are dying Adam will be made alive, if not in this age, then in the age to come, as having been redeemed from the condemnation in Adam. I agree with Russell, however, that this does not mean that if they will all live forever, but it does mean that all will be given a full opportunity to live forever, without the the vail of blindness that now keeps them from understanding. -- Isaiah 25:7; 2 Corinthians 4:4; Revelation 20:1-3.

In our flesh, we all born into this world as "children of wrath" due to Adam's sin. (Romans 5:12-19; 1 Corinthians 15:21,22) The only way out of this condemnation is through the sacrifice of Jesus.

Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled , we shall be saved by his life.

This, in effect, shows that we are born into this world an enemies, that is, out of harmony with God, and that through Jesus one can be reconciled to God.

Ephesians 2:1-13 also shows that the new creature in Christ was, before being begotten again as a new creature, once children of disobedience, children of wrath. God's wrath, which originated through Adam, remains upon those who do not belief until the age to come, when it will be due to time for the whole world to given the truth (Isaiah 2:2-4; 1 Timothy 2:5,6), when the book(s) now closed to them will be opened. (Revelation 20:11-13) Thus, the day of salvation continues on into the age to come, providing not just a resurrection of the just, but also a resurrection of those who in this age remain unjustified. -- John 5:28,29; 12:47,48; Acts 24:14; 1 John 2:2; 4:14.

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One has given me Matthew 20:28, along with John 6:37, evidently with the thought that Jesus did not give himself a ransom for all.

My reply:

The "many" for whom Jesus gives his life as an ransom (price to offset, corresponding price) is absolutely all who are dying in Adam.

Jesus gave himself, not just as atoning sacrifice for those who believe in this age, but also for the whole world.

For God didn't send his Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through him. -- John 3:17, World English.

I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself. -- John 12:32, World English.

If anyone listens to my sayings, and doesn't believe, I don't judge him. For I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. -- John 12:47, World English.

Therefore , just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned - for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come. But the free gift is not like the transgression. For if by the transgression of the one the many died, much more did the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abound to the many. The gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned; for on the one hand the judgment arose from one transgression resulting in condemnation, but on the other hand the free gift arose from many transgressions resulting in justification. For if by the transgression of the one, death reigned through the one, much more those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ. So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men. For as through the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous. -- Romans 5:12-19, New American Standard.

For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. -- 1 Corinthians 15:21,22, New American Standard.

For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time. -- 1 Timothy 2:5,6, New American Standard.

For it is for this we labor and strive, because we have fixed our hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of believers. -- 1 Timothy 4:10, New American Standard.

And he is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not for ours only, but also for the whole world. -- 1 John 2:2, World English.

We have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son to be the Savior of the world. -- 1 John 4:14, New American Standard.


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One has given the following scripture, without comment:

Mark 16:16

"And he said to them, go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. he that believes and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believes not SHALL BE DAMNED." -- King James Version

Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever doesn't believe will be condemned. -- Common English Bible.

Yes, those who do not believe are already condemned in Adam. -- John 3:18; Romans 5:12-19.

The wrath of God, therefore, remains on those who do not believe, so that they do see the new life. -- John 3:36.

That wrath, however, is not a new condemnation, a new judgment, for Jesus said: "If anyone listens to my sayings, and doesn't believe, I don't judge him. For I came not to judge the world, but to save the world." -- John 12:47.

Jesus came to save the whole world from the condemnation of death in Adam. -- John 3:17; 12:47; 1 Corinthians 15:21,22; Romans 5:12-19; 1 John 2:2.

Without that salvation, no one could be raised from the dead, and there would not be a second day of judgment for those who in this age remain unjust (Acts 24:15), and who in this age, remain under the condemnation in Adam. Jesus goes on to show what the salvation of the unbelieving world is for, saying: "He who rejects me, and doesn't receive my sayings, has one who judges him. The word that I spoke, the same will judge him in the last day." -- John 12:48.

Thus, the unjust are kept under the condemnation of Adam UNTIL the day of judgment. -- 2 Peter 2:9

In that "last day", the day when both the saints and the unjust are raised (John 6:39,40,44,54; 11:24; 12:48), Satan will be abyssed (Revelation 20:1-3, so that the heathen will no longer be under his deceptive delusions, and thus at that time world will be able to learn the ways of Jehovah, when the book(s) now sealed to them will be opened, that they might receive a new judgment based, not on Adam's sin, but by their own works as related to what is written in the books that are opened to them at that time. -- Isaiah 2:2-4; 25:7,8; 26:9; 29:11,18; Revelation 20:12.

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"And it is appointed unto men ONCE TO DIE, BUT AFTER THIS THE JUDGMENT."- Hebrews 9:27, King James Version.

Applying this to the world of mankind under the condemnation of death in Adam, that condemnation calls for all men to die (not suffer for eternity), and after this comes the judgment. Those who become dead in Christ are reckoned (Logizomai, imputed, counted) as justified in this age, and thereby reckoned as "made alive", having life reckoned to them in this age as though they are already alive in the age come (2 Corinthians 5:17; Hebrews 6:5), begin a period of judgment -- a trial -- in this age. (Romans 3:8; 4:3-24; 6:4,11; 7:4-6; Colossians 3:3; Philippians 2:13-15; 3:13-14; 2 Timothy 2:3,12; 3:12; James 2:23; 1 Peter 2:20; 4:12; 2 Peter 1:5-10.
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For the unbeliving world, however, as Peter wrote: God will "keep the unrighteous under punishment to the day of judgment." (2 Peter 2:9, World English) They remain under the punishment, the condmnation in Adam until the day of judgment. This agrees with what Jesus said in John 12:47,48.

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