Post by bornagainchristian on Dec 20, 2013 1:17:06 GMT -5
YAHWEH WHOM YOU SEEK SHALL SUDDENLY COME TO HIS TEMPLE
Malachi 3:1 King James Version (KJV) 3 Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the LORD, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.
YAHWEH WHOM YOU SEEK SHALL SUDDENLY COME TO HIS TEMPLE
Malachi 3:1 King James Version (KJV) 3 Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the LORD, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.
Behold, I am sending My messenger, and He will clear the way before Me. And the Lord whom you are seeking shall suddenly come to His temple, even the Angel of the Covenant, in whom you delight. Behold, He comes, says Jehovah of Hosts. - Malachi 3:1, Green's Literal.
The Holy Name only appears once in Malachi 3:1. The King James Version does not have the "the LORD, whom ye seek", with LORD in all caps (with signify the Holy Name in the Hebrew); it has:
Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts. - Malachi 3:1.
Notice the "Lord" applied to messenger of Jehovah is not in all caps, but only the first letter is capitalized, "Lord".
"The Lord" that Israel was seeking is the Anointed of Jehovah. The Lord Jesus comes to his temple, that is, the temple of God made up of living stones which Jehovah gives to him. -- Ezekiel 34:23,24; 37:24; John 6:39; 10:29; 17:6; 1 Corinthians 3:16; 2 Corinthians 6:16; Ephesians 2:21; Hebrews 3:6; 1 Peter 2:5.
Post by alexanderwinslow on Apr 30, 2014 20:22:00 GMT -5
The information quoted here is not proof of any Trinity; in fact after a recent discussion on this matter a singular comment has been put forward. "If anyone [being a Trinitarian] states that Jesus was ‘God the Son’ [incarnate]; then as he was a corresponding ransom for Adam, this also makes Adam who was also a son of God; ‘God the Son’ [incarnate]! So the Trinity just became four!
Post by trinitarian on Jul 10, 2014 4:28:09 GMT -5
Reslight,
We do not really know for sure how many of the "LORD" or "YHWH" were changed to "Lord" or "Adonai". Since we do not have the Autogripa or the Original Texts, then there is no way of saying which translation is correct.
Now, to give you the benefit of the doubt; let's just say that "the Lord" is the correct one. Answer these questions: Who is the "the Lord" or "the Adonai" of the Hebrews?
We do not really know for sure how many of the "LORD" or "YHWH" were changed to "Lord" or "Adonai". Since we do not have the Autogripa or the Original Texts, then there is no way of saying which translation is correct.
I assume this is referring to the various places that Masoretes changed God's Holy Name into a form to ADONAI. This would not apply the one "whom you seek" in Malachi 3:1, since the Masoretic form ADONAI is not used related to "the Lord whom you are seeking." qbible.com/hebrew-old-testament/malachi/3.html#1
"Behold, I send my messenger, and he will prepare the way before me; and the [HA] Lord [ADON], whom you seek, will suddenly come to his temple; and the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, behold, he comes!" says Yahweh of hosts. -- Malachi 3:1, World English.
Yahweh speaks of another -- not Himself -- that Israel was seeking and that was yet to come.
The form used is often transliterated as haadon [the lord]; ADONAI does not appear in the Masoretic text of Malachi 3:1 at all. The Masoretes would not have used haadon if it had originally been the Holy Name in this place. The Masoretes only used the from ADONAI to replace the Holy Name.
Now, to give you the benefit of the doubt; let's just say that "the Lord" is the correct one.
Answer these questions: Who is the "the Lord" or "the Adonai" of the Hebrews?
Malachi was NOT speaking of who is "the Lord" of the Hebrews. "The Lord" (HAADON, not ADONAI) whom they were seeking is the promised messiah, the one whom Moses and the prophets spoke of. It was the one whom David referred to as adoni (my lord) in Psalm 110:1. It was the Lord (ADONAI) Jehovah who anointed and sent Jesus, making him both "lord" and "christ (anointed one)". -- Isaiah 61:1; Acts 2:36. qbible.com/hebrew-old-testament/isaiah/61.html#1