Post by bornagainchristian on Oct 11, 2013 4:24:28 GMT -5
VOICE LIKE THE SOUND OF MANY WATERS
YAHWEH Ezekiel 43:2 New King James Version (NKJV) 2 And behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east. His voice was like the sound of many waters; and the earth shone with His glory.
JESUS Revelation 1:15 New King James Version (NKJV) 15 His feet were like fine brass, as if refined in a furnace, and His voice as the sound of many waters;
YAHWEH Ezekiel 43:2 New King James Version (NKJV) 2 And behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east. His voice was like the sound of many waters; and the earth shone with His glory.
JESUS Revelation 1:15 New King James Version (NKJV) 15 His feet were like fine brass, as if refined in a furnace, and His voice as the sound of many waters;
Evidently, the thought is that since both Jesus and his God are said to have a "voice as the sound of many waters", then would mean that Jesus is his God, or as trinitarians would probably put it, Jesus is Yahweh (Jehovah).
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There is nothing in these scriptures, however, that says that he whom "the God of Israel" raised up to be the prophet like Moses, and in whose mouth the God of Israel puts His words (Deuteronomy 18:15-20; Acts 3:13-26), cannot also speak with a voice that sounds like man waters.
The Father and his Son whom He raised up as the prophet like Moses are indeed most certainly one; and so Jesus also prayed that all his followers be one with him and with his God, just as he is one with his God.
There is nothing at all in Ezekiel 34:2 nor Revelation 1:15 (nor anywhere else in the Bible) that gives in any indication whatsoever that Jesus and his God are one God, however. Any such thought has to be added to, and read into, what is stated.
According to the creeds-isn't the father ,son,holy spirit three distinct and separate persons under the one godhead?Sort of like three pastors that make up one church.
Sort of like three pastors that make up one church.
No. One pastor would not be "fully the one church", as is claimed for the trinity doctrine, that each person is "fully" or "wholly" the one God.
I will say that from my past experience in door-to-door witnessing, I have found most of the rank and file members of the various denominations do not know what is meant by the so-called "orthodox" trinity. In other words, they have never examined exactly what it means, and thus their usage of that term often does not fit the so-called "orthodox" terminology".