Post by ResLight on Aug 16, 2013 16:31:53 GMT -5
One, evidently a oneness believer, stated that Jesus is the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, with the following scriptures supplied, evidently thought to support that idea: Isaiah 9:6; Matthew 28:19 and Acts 2:38. I given below my responses:
Isaiah 9:6
The name given in Isaiah 9:6 is Pelejoezelgibborabiaadarshalom. Such a name given to a person or thing often describes God, and this singular name is given the meaning: “Wonderful in counsel is God the Mighty, the everlasting Father, the Ruler of peace.” Thus, it is the God of Jesus, not Jesus, who is being referred to as "the everlasting father" in Isaiah 9:6. Even if "everlasting father" should be applied to Jesus, it would not mean that Jesus is the name of his God and Father.
See my studies:
jesus.rlbible.com/?page_id=479
Matthew 28:19
Eusebius' earlier quotes of Matthew 28:19 show that Jesus was only speaking of baptising in his name; no reference is made to "of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit". Nevertheless, even that phrase shows that the word "name" is distributive to each one being referred to. In other words, it should be understood as "in the name of the Father, and in the name of the Son, and in the name of the Holy Spirit."
See my studies;
One Name
sonofyah.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/mat-2819/
Matthew 28:19 & the Baptismal Name
jesus.rlbible.com/?p=265
Acts 2:38
And Peter said to them, "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Definitely nothing at all here that says that Jesus is the name of God's Holy Spirit. The words are spoken, not to Gentiles, but to Jews who were already God's people by means of their covenant through Moses. Repentance is toward the God of Israel, while faith is toward Jesus. -- Acts 20:21.
Evidently, the receiving of the gift of God's Holy Spirit is being confused with receiving Jesus? No, one has to, in effect, already have some faith Jesus Christ before one is baptized in the name of Jesus; the very fact that they are baptized in his name shows that they have already accepted him as the one through whom they can be reconciled to God, and are declaring this recognition by being baptized in his name. In effect, before one can be baptized in the name of Jesus, he must already have some faith in Jesus.
We should note, however, that it is the Lord Yahweh, the God and Father of Jesus, who anointed Jesus with HIS Holy Spirit, by which Jesus was made both Lord and Christ (anointed one). (Psalm 2:6; 45:7; Isaiah 61:1; Acts 2:36; 4:27; 10:38; Hebrews 1:9) It is through Jesus that we have access to God by means of God's Holy Spirit. (Ephesians 2:18) Jesus himself received God's Holy Spirit from his God and Father. -- John 15:26; Acts 2:33.
Isaiah 9:6
The name given in Isaiah 9:6 is Pelejoezelgibborabiaadarshalom. Such a name given to a person or thing often describes God, and this singular name is given the meaning: “Wonderful in counsel is God the Mighty, the everlasting Father, the Ruler of peace.” Thus, it is the God of Jesus, not Jesus, who is being referred to as "the everlasting father" in Isaiah 9:6. Even if "everlasting father" should be applied to Jesus, it would not mean that Jesus is the name of his God and Father.
See my studies:
jesus.rlbible.com/?page_id=479
Matthew 28:19
Eusebius' earlier quotes of Matthew 28:19 show that Jesus was only speaking of baptising in his name; no reference is made to "of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit". Nevertheless, even that phrase shows that the word "name" is distributive to each one being referred to. In other words, it should be understood as "in the name of the Father, and in the name of the Son, and in the name of the Holy Spirit."
See my studies;
One Name
sonofyah.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/mat-2819/
Matthew 28:19 & the Baptismal Name
jesus.rlbible.com/?p=265
Acts 2:38
And Peter said to them, "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Definitely nothing at all here that says that Jesus is the name of God's Holy Spirit. The words are spoken, not to Gentiles, but to Jews who were already God's people by means of their covenant through Moses. Repentance is toward the God of Israel, while faith is toward Jesus. -- Acts 20:21.
Evidently, the receiving of the gift of God's Holy Spirit is being confused with receiving Jesus? No, one has to, in effect, already have some faith Jesus Christ before one is baptized in the name of Jesus; the very fact that they are baptized in his name shows that they have already accepted him as the one through whom they can be reconciled to God, and are declaring this recognition by being baptized in his name. In effect, before one can be baptized in the name of Jesus, he must already have some faith in Jesus.
We should note, however, that it is the Lord Yahweh, the God and Father of Jesus, who anointed Jesus with HIS Holy Spirit, by which Jesus was made both Lord and Christ (anointed one). (Psalm 2:6; 45:7; Isaiah 61:1; Acts 2:36; 4:27; 10:38; Hebrews 1:9) It is through Jesus that we have access to God by means of God's Holy Spirit. (Ephesians 2:18) Jesus himself received God's Holy Spirit from his God and Father. -- John 15:26; Acts 2:33.