Post by ResLight on Aug 7, 2013 10:18:58 GMT -5
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Does God Share His Glory as Most High With Jesus?
It is being claimed that Mark 8:38, along with Zechariah 14:5, prove that Jesus shares the glory of Jehovah, and thus, that Jesus is Jehovah.
Jehovah does not share the glory of being the Almighty, the only Most High, the Supreme is who over all else, with anyone else, not even His Son. -- 1 Corinthians 15:27.
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, by means of his holy spirit, reveals through the scriptures that Jesus is son of the unipersonal Most High, Jehovah. Jesus is never spoken of as the “Most High”; he is not the only Most High Jehovah of whom he is the son. — Genesis 14:22; Psalm 7:17; 83:18; 92:1; Luke 1:32; John 13:16; Hebrews 1:1.
The unipersonal Most High Yahweh (Luke 1:32,35), having sent His Messiah, does all things through, by means of, Jesus, his son, the one whom He has ordained, appointed and anointed, and our salvation is from the unipersonal God, through the son of the unipersonal God, all to the glorification of the unipersonal God. — Psalm 2:6; 45:7; Isaiah 61:1; Matthew 11:27; 28:18; Luke 10:22; John 1:17; 3:35; 13:3; 16:15; Acts 4:27; Romans 3:24; 1 Corinthians 8:6; 15:27; 2 Corinthians 5:18; Ephesians 1:3,17,20-22; Philippians 2:11; Colossians 1:3,13,20; Hebrews 1:1,2; 1 Peter 4:11.
The unipersonal Most High comes to judge through — by means of — His son. — Psalm 96:13; 98:9; Luke 1:32,35; John 5:22,23; Acts 10:42; 17:31; Romans 2:16; 1 Corinthians 4:5.
The saints belong to Jehovah who has given them TO His Son, so that they belong both to Jehovah, the only Most High, and also they belong to His Son. -- Ezekiel 34:15,23,24; John 10:16,29; 17:2,6,9,12.
Jehovah comes to judge the world by means of the one whom He has ordained. -- Psalm 96:13; 98:9; Acts 17:31.
However, glory of God does not always mean being the Most High.
The scriptures reveal that if one has no sin, he does not fall short of the glory of God, and thus, that Adam had the glory of God -- on a human level, a little lower than the angels, until he fell short of that glory in sin. -- Psalm 8:4,5; Romans 3:23; 5:12.
Jesus, while in days of his flesh, also was without sin, and he never did sin, and even as a human, he thus never fell short of the glory of his God. -- Romans 3:23; 2 Corinthians 5:21; Hebrews 2:9; 4:17; 5:7.
However, during the days of his flesh (Hebrews 5:7), he did not have the celestial bodily glory that he had before became flesh. (John 17:5; 1 Corinthians 15:39-40) After his resurrection, he was exalted to even higher glory, sitting at the right hand of Jehovah, having the second highest position in the whole universe, and he thus now has the glory of his God in way that no one else has such. -- Psalm 110:1; Acts 2:33; 5:31; Philippians 2:9.
His having the glory of his God and Father, however, does not at all mean that Jesus has the glory of being the only Most High, which glory only belongs to the Most High. Nevertheless, if one were to read that Jesus was given the glory of the being the only Most High, this would mean that Jesus, before being given that glory, was not the Most High. If this be applied to the trinity dogma, then it would mean that Jesus was not a person of the triune God until he was given the glory of being the Most High.
Actually, there is nothng in any of the scriptures presented that say that Jesus is Yahweh, and certainly nothing about a triune God who is three persons. All such has to be imagined and assumed upon the scriptures.
Does God Share His Glory as Most High With Jesus?
It is being claimed that Mark 8:38, along with Zechariah 14:5, prove that Jesus shares the glory of Jehovah, and thus, that Jesus is Jehovah.
Jehovah does not share the glory of being the Almighty, the only Most High, the Supreme is who over all else, with anyone else, not even His Son. -- 1 Corinthians 15:27.
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, by means of his holy spirit, reveals through the scriptures that Jesus is son of the unipersonal Most High, Jehovah. Jesus is never spoken of as the “Most High”; he is not the only Most High Jehovah of whom he is the son. — Genesis 14:22; Psalm 7:17; 83:18; 92:1; Luke 1:32; John 13:16; Hebrews 1:1.
The unipersonal Most High Yahweh (Luke 1:32,35), having sent His Messiah, does all things through, by means of, Jesus, his son, the one whom He has ordained, appointed and anointed, and our salvation is from the unipersonal God, through the son of the unipersonal God, all to the glorification of the unipersonal God. — Psalm 2:6; 45:7; Isaiah 61:1; Matthew 11:27; 28:18; Luke 10:22; John 1:17; 3:35; 13:3; 16:15; Acts 4:27; Romans 3:24; 1 Corinthians 8:6; 15:27; 2 Corinthians 5:18; Ephesians 1:3,17,20-22; Philippians 2:11; Colossians 1:3,13,20; Hebrews 1:1,2; 1 Peter 4:11.
The unipersonal Most High comes to judge through — by means of — His son. — Psalm 96:13; 98:9; Luke 1:32,35; John 5:22,23; Acts 10:42; 17:31; Romans 2:16; 1 Corinthians 4:5.
The saints belong to Jehovah who has given them TO His Son, so that they belong both to Jehovah, the only Most High, and also they belong to His Son. -- Ezekiel 34:15,23,24; John 10:16,29; 17:2,6,9,12.
Jehovah comes to judge the world by means of the one whom He has ordained. -- Psalm 96:13; 98:9; Acts 17:31.
However, glory of God does not always mean being the Most High.
The scriptures reveal that if one has no sin, he does not fall short of the glory of God, and thus, that Adam had the glory of God -- on a human level, a little lower than the angels, until he fell short of that glory in sin. -- Psalm 8:4,5; Romans 3:23; 5:12.
Jesus, while in days of his flesh, also was without sin, and he never did sin, and even as a human, he thus never fell short of the glory of his God. -- Romans 3:23; 2 Corinthians 5:21; Hebrews 2:9; 4:17; 5:7.
However, during the days of his flesh (Hebrews 5:7), he did not have the celestial bodily glory that he had before became flesh. (John 17:5; 1 Corinthians 15:39-40) After his resurrection, he was exalted to even higher glory, sitting at the right hand of Jehovah, having the second highest position in the whole universe, and he thus now has the glory of his God in way that no one else has such. -- Psalm 110:1; Acts 2:33; 5:31; Philippians 2:9.
His having the glory of his God and Father, however, does not at all mean that Jesus has the glory of being the only Most High, which glory only belongs to the Most High. Nevertheless, if one were to read that Jesus was given the glory of the being the only Most High, this would mean that Jesus, before being given that glory, was not the Most High. If this be applied to the trinity dogma, then it would mean that Jesus was not a person of the triune God until he was given the glory of being the Most High.
Actually, there is nothng in any of the scriptures presented that say that Jesus is Yahweh, and certainly nothing about a triune God who is three persons. All such has to be imagined and assumed upon the scriptures.
