Post by ResLight on Jun 26, 2013 12:45:55 GMT -5
Romans 5:13 For until the law, sin was in the world; but sin is not charged [Ellogeo - Strong's #1677] when there is no law.
Romans 5:13 is sometimes quoted as proof that Jesus was born into this world as a sinner, since he was born into this world under law. The assumption is evidently that to be born under the law makes one a sinner. -- Galatians 4:4.
The word often rendered as imputed in Romans 5:13 is not "Logizomai", as used in Romans 4:3-6,8-11,22-24 (variously translated in the KJV as "counted", "reckoned", "imputed". "ELOGEO" is formed from two word "EN" (Strong's #1722) and "LOGOS" (Strong's #3056), meaning "in account", or "in score". The word is only found in one other scripture, that is, Philemon 1:18, where the KJV translates it as "in ... account". As applied to Romans 5:13, it is the keeping record of one's sins, which is done by God Himself. Although sin existed amongst all men between Adam and the giving of the Law, God was not keeping an account of those sins; he did charge the sin of Adam, which sin made all mankind sinners even before birth.
Being under the law does not of itself count one as a sinner. If one sins without law, then it is not charged to his account, but such a person still dies under the sin of Adam (Romans 5:12-19); if one sins under the law, then it is charged to his account, and brings the added curse of the law. The Law was given, not to make men sinners, but rather that they could be justified by the law, if they obeyed the law. (Romans 2:13) However, men were already made sinners through the sin of Adam (Romans 5:19), and were thus under subjection to vanity and the bondage of corruption (Romans 8:19-22), which made the Law ineffective and weak to bring the desired justification. (Romans 8:3) The Law proved that man could not make himself straight (Acts 13:39; Romans 3:20; Galatians 2:6; 3:11), which would mean that only God could provide a man who is straight, without sin, who would be free of the sin of Adam and its condemnation, that could provide the price of redemption.
If Jesus transgressed against the law, then he would not only be under the wages of sin -- death, but he would have been under that added the curse of the law.
If Jesus was born into this world as a sinner, then he was like all other men who could not be made straight (Ecclesiastes 1:15; 7:13), and thus we have no redeemer. Jesus' body was specially prepared by his God through God's Holy Spirit. (Matthew 1:20; Hebrews 10:5) This had to be so, or else Jesus would have been born as part of the old creation that has been subjected to vanity, and Jesus could not have brought for any new creation just as no other man cannot bring forth a new creation. (Ecclesiastes 1:2,9-15; Romans 8:19-22) However, Jesus, who never once ever sinned, with or without the law, could condemn sin in the flesh, having proven that a sinless man could obey God. Adam, before he sinned, however, was without suffering; once Adam sinned, then he began to suffer even until he was dead. Through Adam's sin, sin came to be in the world, and the whole world of mankind was condemned to die through that one sin. (Romans 5:12-19) Jesus, however, although he came into this world condemned in Adam, was never "of this world", since his body was specially prepared by his God, free of the taint of sin from Adam.
See:
Focus on the Atonement
rlbible.com/atonement/
Romans 5:13 is sometimes quoted as proof that Jesus was born into this world as a sinner, since he was born into this world under law. The assumption is evidently that to be born under the law makes one a sinner. -- Galatians 4:4.
The word often rendered as imputed in Romans 5:13 is not "Logizomai", as used in Romans 4:3-6,8-11,22-24 (variously translated in the KJV as "counted", "reckoned", "imputed". "ELOGEO" is formed from two word "EN" (Strong's #1722) and "LOGOS" (Strong's #3056), meaning "in account", or "in score". The word is only found in one other scripture, that is, Philemon 1:18, where the KJV translates it as "in ... account". As applied to Romans 5:13, it is the keeping record of one's sins, which is done by God Himself. Although sin existed amongst all men between Adam and the giving of the Law, God was not keeping an account of those sins; he did charge the sin of Adam, which sin made all mankind sinners even before birth.
Being under the law does not of itself count one as a sinner. If one sins without law, then it is not charged to his account, but such a person still dies under the sin of Adam (Romans 5:12-19); if one sins under the law, then it is charged to his account, and brings the added curse of the law. The Law was given, not to make men sinners, but rather that they could be justified by the law, if they obeyed the law. (Romans 2:13) However, men were already made sinners through the sin of Adam (Romans 5:19), and were thus under subjection to vanity and the bondage of corruption (Romans 8:19-22), which made the Law ineffective and weak to bring the desired justification. (Romans 8:3) The Law proved that man could not make himself straight (Acts 13:39; Romans 3:20; Galatians 2:6; 3:11), which would mean that only God could provide a man who is straight, without sin, who would be free of the sin of Adam and its condemnation, that could provide the price of redemption.
If Jesus transgressed against the law, then he would not only be under the wages of sin -- death, but he would have been under that added the curse of the law.
If Jesus was born into this world as a sinner, then he was like all other men who could not be made straight (Ecclesiastes 1:15; 7:13), and thus we have no redeemer. Jesus' body was specially prepared by his God through God's Holy Spirit. (Matthew 1:20; Hebrews 10:5) This had to be so, or else Jesus would have been born as part of the old creation that has been subjected to vanity, and Jesus could not have brought for any new creation just as no other man cannot bring forth a new creation. (Ecclesiastes 1:2,9-15; Romans 8:19-22) However, Jesus, who never once ever sinned, with or without the law, could condemn sin in the flesh, having proven that a sinless man could obey God. Adam, before he sinned, however, was without suffering; once Adam sinned, then he began to suffer even until he was dead. Through Adam's sin, sin came to be in the world, and the whole world of mankind was condemned to die through that one sin. (Romans 5:12-19) Jesus, however, although he came into this world condemned in Adam, was never "of this world", since his body was specially prepared by his God, free of the taint of sin from Adam.
See:
Focus on the Atonement
rlbible.com/atonement/
