Does the Son knows the day and the hour of his coming?

Actually, most Bible Students have no objection to the deity of the Son of the Most High; we do object to the claim that his deity would mean that he is the Most High. -- Luke 1:32,35.

See:
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Such a thought has to imagined beyond what is written, and then added and read into scriptures.

See:
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and:
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Assuming that Jesus is referred to as "God" in Hebrews 1:8 (Psalm 45:7), then Hebrews 1:9 (Psalm 45:8)refers to another who is the God of Jesus. Is Jesus the God of Jesus? You would have one GOD in Hebrews 1:8 who is not the God of Jesus, but rather Jesus himself, and another "GOD" in Hebrews 1:9 who is not Jesus, but rather the GOD of Jesus, thus two different GODS.

The fact is that there "many gods" in the Bible. The angels are all GOD -- MIGHTY; this does not mean that they are all the one true God. Likwise, the sons of the Most High to whom the Logos came are all referred to as GOD -- MIGHTY; this does not mean that they are all the one true God. The default reasoning is that if two different persons are both referred as "man", this does not mean that these two persons are one human begin. Is Jesus the God and Father of Jesus? (Ephesians 1:3; 1 Peter 1:3) Who was Jesus addressing as "my God" in John 20:17? Is Jesus that same God who is the Father of Jesus? Who is "God" who has a son in Hebrews 1:2? Is Jesus that same God who has a son? Despite all that sly trickery of trinitarian methods to explain all this away, the reality is that there are two different gods; one who is the Almighty, and another who is not.



Since there is nothing in the Bible about Jesus having two planes of existence at once, the only reason to think of such beyond what is written is to find support for the added idea that Jesus is Yahweh (Jehovah).

I am not sure what questions are being referred to.

Regarding John 16:30:
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Regarding John 21:17
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The default reasoning is not that only true God and the Son of only true God are both the only true God. It is not I that has to give you anything at all that says that Jesus and His God are "TWO GODS". I cannot think of any reason any Bible author would have ever stated such a thing. The onus is on those who claim that Jesus and the only true God who sent Jesus to produce a scripture that actually says that Jesus and His God are both one God.



Since it the the Bible itself that mentions many who are gods [mighty ones], then the above, in effect, is saying that the Bible is pagan and not Christian.

See my studies:

True God Versus False God = False Dichotomy
Hebraic Usage of the Titles for “God”


I have no reason at all to think that son, if he is being called ELOHIM in Psalm 45:7 is also the ELOHIM who anointed him anymore than I would have to think that Jesus is also the ELOHIM of Psalm 8:5 or the ELOHIM of Psalm 82:6.

See my studies:
Who are the Gods?
Why is Jesus called “Elohim” and “Theos”?

So far I have seen no scriptural "proof" that Jesus and his God are one God. What has to be imagined and assumed is not, to me, actual "proof".



The onus is one who is speaking against the default to prove otherwise. The default is not to imagine and assume that Jesus is a person of Yahweh who sent him. The Bible no where presents any thought of God being more than one person. The default reasoning is that God is only one person. Since there is nothing in the scriptures that state otherwise, why should there ever anywhere at any place where we would find any of the Bible writers have ever thought of writing out a statement that Jesus and His God are two gods? The default reasoning is that Jesus is NOT the only true God whom he was with, and who sent Jesus.



And so, Jesus can certainly be called "GOD" because of the mightiness of the Almighty has given to him.



As so Jesus, having been given authority and power to exercise judgment from the Almighty, can certainly be called GOD because of his exercising judgment just like his God. -- John 5:22.



One could say that Moses acted as a representative to God to Pharaoh, and so Jesus is a representative of his God. However, there is more to it than this, since Yahweh actually gave to Moses special mightiness to perform miracles in His name. Likewise, all that Jesus has he has received from His God and Father, and Jesus performed his works in the name of his God.



If this is only in a figurative sense, then there Satan has no might at all; he is nothing. He cannot be like a roaring lion seeking whom he can devour (1 Peter 5:8), for he is nothing. If Satan is NOTHING, there cannot be any "wiles of the devil." (Ephesians 6:11) Nor could he be figurative "strong man". (Matthew 12:29; Mark 3:27) Surely Satan is indeed a mighty one in more than just a figurative sense.



If these are not actually "gods" -- mighty ones, then according to the reasoning given, then they must be false gods as idols who by nature have no might, no power.

This ignores the usage as in the might, strength of one's hand.



There is indeed only one God who is the source of all might; again, this does not mean that the Almighty cannot give to his creatures might, power, and strength.

And then there is also the usage of might, power of one's hand.

I will quote what I wrote on my website:

When considering the Hebrew word *EL*, that this word is used to mean other than God Almighty or a false god may be readily seen by anyone who will carefully note the following texts from the King James Version, in which English translations of the Hebrew word El are in denoted by *..*: “It is in the *power* of my hand.” (Genesis 31:29) “There shall be no *might* in thine hand.” (Deuteronomy 28:32) “Neither is it in our *power*.” (Nehemiah 5:5) “Like the *great* mountains.” (Psalm 36:6) “In the *power* of thine hand to do it.” (Proverbs 3:27) “Pray unto *a god* [mighty one] that cannot save.” (Isaiah 45:20) “Who among the sons of the *mighty*.” (Psalm 89:6) “God standeth in the congregation of the *mighty*.” (Psalm 82:1) “Who is like unto thee, O Lord [Yahweh] among the *Gods* [mighty ones or ruling ones]?” (Exodus 15:11) “Give unto the Lord [Yahweh] of ye *mighty*.” (Psalm 29:1) “The *mighty* God even the Lord [Yahweh].” (Psalm 50:1) “The *strong* among the mighty shall speak” (Ezekiel 32:21)

Therefore, we should be to able to readily see that the word EL, when used of another than Yahweh, takes on the general meaning of “strength”, “might” or power.

Consequently, the word “God” is applicable to any powerful being, but it applies only to Yahweh as the exclusive source of all power – the Almighty Yahweh, and is thus used in relative terms of others.

We should note that it is stated that Yahweh is the Supreme “El” and rules over all other ones called “el” – powerful ones. And it should also be noted that Yahweh is the name applied to the Supreme Being – our Father, and him whom Jesus called Father and God. — John 17:1,3: 20:17; Psalm 110:1; Matthew 22:43-45; 26:64; Mark 12:35-37; Luke 20:41-44; Acts 2:34; 7:55: Romans 8:34; Colossians 3:1; Hebrews 1:13; 10:12,13; 1 Peter 3:22.
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ELOHIM is the plural of ELOAH. Like EL, its usage is not confined to that of the Almighty. We have already seen that it is applied to the “sons of god” — men — in Psalm 82:6,7. Additionally, we find that Moses is spoken of as *elohim* to Pharoah (Exodus 7:1) and also to Aaron (Exodus 4:16). One author claims, “Angels are never referred to as “God”. Yet, this is misleading, since we find that in the Bible that the angels are also called elohim: Psalm 8:5 (compare Hebrews 2:7,9; also Psalm 50:1 and 96:4 could be speaking of angels as elohim). Additionally, the judges of Israel are referred to as *ha elohim* (as a body): Exodus 21:6; 22:8,9,28 (See Acts 23:5). The wicked spirit that impersonated Samuel is called elohim. (1 Samuel 28:13) Thus seen, anyone who has been given special power by Yahweh can legitimately be referred to as a god. Even the wicked spirits are legitimately called by this title, since they do receive their power from the only ultimate Supreme Power, Yahweh, although they misuse the power that Yahweh has given to them.

Below are some scriptures in which Yahweh the [All-Mighty] El/Elohim is contrasted with other elohim [Mighty Ones]

Psalm 86:6-8–”Hear, Yahweh, my prayer….
There is no one like you among the gods [elohim].”
Psalm 95:3–”For Yahweh is a great God [el], A great King above all gods. [elohim -- mighty ones].”
Psalm 50:1–”The Mighty One [el], God, [elohim; literally, God of gods -- el elohim --
the mighty of the mighty], Yahweh, speaks.” Young’s Literal reads on this: “The God [el] of gods [elohim] — Jehovah — hath spoken.”
Exodus 15:11–”Who is like you, Yahweh, among the gods [el--mighty ones]?”
Psalm 96:4–”For great is Yahweh, and greatly to be praised! He is to be feared above all gods. [elohim--mighty
ones.]“

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And yet, there is nothing in the scritpures that ever once speaks of Jesus and his God and Father both being one God.



Nor do we find that Bible ever speaks of both the Father and his Son as being one God.



And still there is nothing in this statement that gives one any scriptural reason to imagine, assume, add to, and read into the scriptures that there are three persons in one God, a thought that is not once ever anywhere at any time presented in the Bible.

In the exclusive sense of being Mighty of Himself (not receiving His mightiness from any of the source), there is only one who is such a Mighty One.



While Paul speaks of those so-called gods, who are not by nature god, mighty, he also says there many gods, many mighty ones, who are by nature, mighty, but who are not the Almighty, the only Mighty One who is mighty of Himself.





Yahweh is the only true God by nature of being the only one who has mightiness of himself, not receiving His power from any other source. Others are by nature "god" - mighty -- in that they receive special power or authority from the only true source of Mightiness.




Is the usage of the word for "GOD" in the following verses simply figurative, or is it actually designating the actual might, power, or authority of the persons being spoken of? -- Genesis 31:29; Deuteronomy 28:32; Nehemiah 5:5; Proverbs 3:27; Ezekiel 32:21.

If Moses, the angels, and others are the "so-called" gods that Paul wrote about, then they are all false gods according the general reasoning presented by trinitarians. Actually, the "called" or "so-called" gods are idols which have no mightiness, nor might, power; Moses, the angels, the sons of God to whom the Logos came, etc., are not of those who are "called" gods, for these are all given special power, might, and authority from God, and are thus among the "many gods" that Paul wrote about.



I am not a all saying that there are many "Supreme Beings" -- "Gods".




The concept of GOD or a god as usually understood in modern English is based on the trinitarian concepts that were developed centuries ago (true God versus false God); this basically ignores the Hebraic usage of such words, and thus this causes the Biblical concepts and Biblical usage of the words for GOD seem to be confusing if one is limited by the concept of true God versus false gods.

I suspect that you wish make it confusing, or that it is confusing to you because you are so set on trinitarian dogma that it blinds you to what the scriptures say.


God = Supreme Being

There is only one Supreme Being



The one true God -- The only true source of all Might -- is uniquely different the other gods -- mighty ones -- who are not the one true "God".

Deuteronomy 10:17
For Yahweh your God, he is God of gods, and Lord of lords, the great God, the mighty, and the awesome, who doesn't regard persons, nor takes reward.

Psalm 82:1
God presides in the great assembly. He judges among the gods.

Psalm 95:3
Yahweh is a great God, A great King above all gods.

It was the God and Father of Jesus who said the sons of the Most High: "You are gods". -- John 10:34; Psalm 82:6.




Yahweh is the only true MIGHT who is such of HIMSELF. He is thus above and separate from all other "gods" who have to depend on Yahweh for their might, power, or authority.