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Trinity and Jesus' Sacrifice May 2, 2013 10:52:12 GMT -5

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Post by ResLight on May 2, 2013 10:52:12 GMT -5

The Bible is in perfect and beautiful harmony with itself without adding the idea that Jesus is a person of God into the Bible. Indeed, adding "triune God" into the Bible deflects the purpose of Jesus' role of becoming flesh, for he came in order to give his flesh in sacrifice to his God by which he provides a ransom for all who are dying in Adam. -- Matthew 20:28; John 6:51; Luke 22:19; Romans 3:25; 5:8,12-19; 1 Corinthians 15:21,22; Ephesians 5:2; Titus 2:14; Hebrews 10:5,10; 1 Peter 3:18; 1 John 2:2; 4:10.

Furthermore, if Jesus was Jehovah in the flesh, then, rather than having condemned sin in the flesh (Romans 8:3), Jesus justified sin in the flesh. The only way that he could condemn sin in the flesh, in which God could remain just, and yet be the justifier of sinners (Romans 3:26), is that Jesus had to be just as Adam was before Adam sinned, a little lower than the angels (Psalm 8:4,5), except that he would never disobey as did Adam. -- 2 Corinthians 5:21; Hebrews 2:9; 4:15; 1 John 3:5.

On the other hand, if Jesus had been God Almighty in the flesh, it would have meant that for Adam to have obeyed, Adam would have needed to have been God Almighty in the flesh; but since Adam was not God Almighty in the flesh, then Jesus' obedience to God [himself?] would not have condemned sin the flesh, but would rather have justified sin the flesh.

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Alexander Winslow
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Trinity and Jesus' Sacrifice May 3, 2013 19:27:29 GMT -5

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Post by Alexander Winslow on May 3, 2013 19:27:29 GMT -5

No one in their right mind believes the Trinity, God did not create himself, he is a being and not a creature; this is simply a Satanic ploy!

Some say that Jesus was divine while on earth, yet Jesus states that he wasn’t. In answer to a comment referring to him as being ‘good’ he replied: "Why callest thou Me good? There is none good but One, which is, God.” (Mark 10:18) KJ21

Satan’s challenge to Almighty God that like Adam, he could not put a perfect man on the earth who in the face of adversity would stay true to him, was taken up by the Creator who used his only-begotten Son for the task. However, if as the Trinitarians claim, this was actually God himself in the person of Jesus , the challenge would immediately become invalid.

(1) It had to be a human of the same value as Adam [not a god-man].
(2) It had to be someone other than God or it would prove nothing
(3) God is immortal and cannot die in any way shape or form.

These three points alone render the doctrine of the Trinity invalid.
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By accepting the words of Jesus and the Apostle John we can confirm:

1. “My Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28) So no ‘equal’ Trinity.
2. “Only ‘one’ is good, God.” (Mark 10:18) So no ‘God the Son’.
3. “No man has seen God at anytime.” (John 1:18) So no God incarnate.
To prove this emphatically, these three scriptures completely demolish this man-made Trinity!

A ‘God-man’ such as ‘God the Son’ would completely invalidate the challenge!

In fact we are informed through the scriptures that Jesus was made a little lower than the angels and therefore was born a perfect man just like Adam. His divinity was awarded to him after his execution when on the third day he was raised up as an immortal creature. In fact he was again begotten personally by the hand of God, which means that he was actually begotten twice!

John 1:14: “So the Word became flesh and resided among us…” So there we have it in the words of the Apostle John, it was not Almighty God who became flesh [incarnate] to produce a ‘God-man’, but the ‘Word’, the first-born of all creation who became a man; a perfect man in the same mould as Adam!

In the words of the Athanasian Creed: ‘the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, all three are equal and indivisible and yet there are nor three Gods but one God.’ ” – The Catholic Encyclopaedia (New York; 1912) Vol. XV p. 47.

Well now that is most interesting because if the Son is God, then this means whatever God knows the Son also knows. Yet in the scriptures it states:

“Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son; but only the Father.” (Matthew 24:36) NMTCS

“But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.” (Mark 13:32) KJV

Now due to the fact that the Son still does not know, he therefore cannot be God!

As for them being equal, we are informed that: “But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.” (1 Corinthians 11:3) KJV

The head of Christ is God, so they are not equal after all just as Jesus said: “…I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28) KJV

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