Post by ResLight on Feb 10, 2024 15:57:34 GMT -5
As proof that Jesus is God, the following often presented:
And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of compassion and supplication, so that, when they look on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a first-born. — Zechariah 12:10, Revised Standard Version.
And I will pour out a spirit of compassion and supplication on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, so that, when they look on the one whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn. — Zechariah 12:10, New Revised Standard.
I will fill the descendants of David and the other people of Jerusalem with the spirit of mercy and the spirit of prayer. They will look at the one whom they stabbed to death, and they will mourn for him like those who mourn for an only child. They will mourn bitterly, like those who have lost their first-born son. — Zechariah 12:10, Good News Translation.
John 19:37
Again another Scripture says, “They will look on him whom they pierced.” — World English.
John quotes Zechariah 12:10, not as saying that “they will look on me” as many translations rendered Zechariah 12:10, but as “they will on him”. The Jewish Talmud* quotes Zechariah 12:10 as saying “and they shall look upon whom they have pierced, and mourn.”
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*T. Bab. Succah, fol. 52. 1, as quoted by John Gill in his comments on Zechariah 12:10.
John applies Zechariah 12:10, not to Jehovah, but to the one whom Jehovah sent. Likewise, in Revelation 1:6,7, it is not being applied to Jehovah, but to Jesus. This indicates that Zechariah 12:10 is not referring to Jehovah being pierced, but rather of His Son. The fact is that there are variant readings in the Hebrew manuscripts; in harmony with the New Testament, I believe that Zechariah 12:10 should read "look on him". Otherwise, we could assume that Jehovah was speaking being pierced through His Son. This would not mean that we would need to imagine and assume that Jesus is Jehovah.
At any rate, one has to assume that it was Jehovah’s intention by His words in Zechariah 12:10 to claim that He would be His son; and then, as far as trinitarians are concerned, then one has to further imagine and assume that this means that Jehovah was speaking of Himself as a person of an alleged triune God, etc. In view of the fact that the Bible is seen as fully at harmony with itself without assuming such, we actually have no reason to imagine that Zechariah 12:10 was meant to imply that Jesus is Jehovah.
See my studies:
The One Pierced
Who is Speaking in Zechariah 12?
Zechariah 12:10 (They pierced me – God)- John 19:34 (They pierced Jesus)
And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of compassion and supplication, so that, when they look on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a first-born. — Zechariah 12:10, Revised Standard Version.
And I will pour out a spirit of compassion and supplication on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, so that, when they look on the one whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn. — Zechariah 12:10, New Revised Standard.
I will fill the descendants of David and the other people of Jerusalem with the spirit of mercy and the spirit of prayer. They will look at the one whom they stabbed to death, and they will mourn for him like those who mourn for an only child. They will mourn bitterly, like those who have lost their first-born son. — Zechariah 12:10, Good News Translation.
John 19:37
Again another Scripture says, “They will look on him whom they pierced.” — World English.
John quotes Zechariah 12:10, not as saying that “they will look on me” as many translations rendered Zechariah 12:10, but as “they will on him”. The Jewish Talmud* quotes Zechariah 12:10 as saying “and they shall look upon whom they have pierced, and mourn.”
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*T. Bab. Succah, fol. 52. 1, as quoted by John Gill in his comments on Zechariah 12:10.
John applies Zechariah 12:10, not to Jehovah, but to the one whom Jehovah sent. Likewise, in Revelation 1:6,7, it is not being applied to Jehovah, but to Jesus. This indicates that Zechariah 12:10 is not referring to Jehovah being pierced, but rather of His Son. The fact is that there are variant readings in the Hebrew manuscripts; in harmony with the New Testament, I believe that Zechariah 12:10 should read "look on him". Otherwise, we could assume that Jehovah was speaking being pierced through His Son. This would not mean that we would need to imagine and assume that Jesus is Jehovah.
At any rate, one has to assume that it was Jehovah’s intention by His words in Zechariah 12:10 to claim that He would be His son; and then, as far as trinitarians are concerned, then one has to further imagine and assume that this means that Jehovah was speaking of Himself as a person of an alleged triune God, etc. In view of the fact that the Bible is seen as fully at harmony with itself without assuming such, we actually have no reason to imagine that Zechariah 12:10 was meant to imply that Jesus is Jehovah.
See my studies:
The One Pierced
Who is Speaking in Zechariah 12?
