Post by ResLight on Oct 30, 2022 20:01:53 GMT -5
Some point to 1 Corinthians 15:42-44 as though it says that the present physical body will be raised in the resurrection. In reality that is not what Paul stated.
Nowhere in Paul's discussion regarding the kind of body one is raised with (1 Corinthians 15:35-54) does he say anything to the effect that the soul of a person is not dead, nor does he say anything to the effect that one is raised back into one's former body.
{1 Corinthians 15:35} But someone will say, "How are the dead raised?" and, "With what kind of body do they come?"
{1 Corinthians 15:36} You foolish one, that which you yourself sow is not made alive unless it dies.
{1 Corinthians 15:37} That which you sow, you don't sow the body that will be, but a bare grain, maybe of wheat, or of some other kind.
{1 Corinthians 15:38} But God assigns it [the seed/grain] a body even as it pleases him, and to each seed a body of its own.
{1 Corinthians 15:39} All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one flesh of men, another flesh of animals, another of fish, and another of birds.
{1 Corinthians 15:40} There are also celestial bodies, and terrestrial bodies; but the glory of the celestial differs from that of the terrestrial.
{1 Corinthians 15:41} There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.
{1 Corinthians 15:42} So also is the resurrection of the dead. It [the seed/grain] is sown with corruptibility; it [the seed/grain] is raised with incorruptibility.
{1 Corinthians 15:43} It [the seed/grain] is sown with dishonor; it [the seed/grain] is raised with glory. It [the seed/grain] is sown with weakness; it [the seed/grain] is raised with power.
{1 Corinthians 15:44} It [the seed/grain] is sown with a physical body; it is raised up with a spiritual body. There is a physical body and there is also a spiritual body.
In the context of 1 Corinthians 15:42-44, Paul is answering the questions: "How are the dead raised?" and, "With what kind of body do they come? (1 Corinthians 15:35) He explains that what is being sown now by the new creature is not actually the body that will be in the resurrection, but rather that what is sown he likens to a bare grain, a seed [something similar to an embryo], and that God gives (appoints) to that seed a body as it pleases him, to each seed its own body. He appears to be likening the regenerated son of God in this age to a seed or grain that is being sown. The regenerated seed is first appointed a body as Adam had before Adam sinned. Adam before he sinned, was incorrupt -- upright, but he was corruptible. Adam has not yet proven himself incorruptible. Instead of proving himself to be incorruptible, however, Adam became corrupt, crooked, due to disobedience.
God prepared a body for Jesus that was equal to Adam before Adam sinned. Unlike Adam, however, Jesus remained obedient to his God, and thus did put on incorruption. So with the children of God who become regenerated in this age. They, as being a regenerated seed, are first assigned a body like Jesus' human body, fleshly, not celestial, spiritual. Until they overcome -- prove themselves incorruptible -- as did Jesus, they are incorrupt as new creatures, but they are still corruptible. But the seed is raised, grown, into an incorruptible condition in which it cannot be corrupted. Thus, when the corruptible seed puts on incorruption, for that person, death is swallowed up in victory.
Paul, however, explains that there are two general kinds of bodies with their respective glory, one kind being the fleshly, terrestrial, of the dust, earthly bodies. Elsewhere, man's body terrestrial body of flesh is said to be crowned with a glory that is a little lower than the angels. (Psalm 8:4,5; Hebrews 2:6,7) The human crown of glory spoken of, however, evidently is that glory originally given to Adam that he had before he sinned. When Adam sinned, mankind no longer has that unmarred crown of glory as originally given. All of Adam's descendants, being made (in effect, counted reckoned) as sinners through the disobedience of Adam (Romans 5:12-19), fall short of that glory. (Romans 3:23) Thus, God has subjected all of Adam's offspring to a bondage of corruption. (Romans 8:20,21) Solomon spoke of this saying that what God has made crooked cannot be made straight, referring to man now living under the present sun of vanity. -- Ecclesiastes 1:14,15; 7:13.
Jesus' body of flesh, however, was specially prepared by his God. (Hebrews 10:5) He was not born into this world with Adamic condemnation, and thus he was born into this world with the unmarred glory that Adam had before Adam sinned. Unlike Adam, however, Jesus never fell short of the glory of his God through disobedience, and thus he had the price necessary to offset the condemnation upon Adam and all of Adam's descendants. (1 Corinthians 15:21,22; 1 Timothy 2:5,6; 1 John 2:2; 4:9,10) That is the glory that Jesus had while he was in the days of his flesh. (Hebrews 2:9; 5:7)
The second kind of body that is assigned to the seed/grain of the new creature is a celestial, heavenly, spiritual body. Paul never mixes the glory of earthly, physical bodies with the glory of the spiritual, heavenly bodies. He clearly distinguishes between the two kinds of bodies. Either one is of the heavenly glory or one of the earthly glory; one cannot have both an earthly body of dust and a heavenly body of spirit at the same time.
Thus Paul explains that the first kind of body assigned to the seed of the new creature is not the spiritual, heavenly body, but rather the earthly, fleshly body. Paul elsewhere speaks of this assignment as being in heaven. (2 Corinthians 5:1) Thus, when one becomes regenerated as a son of God, he is likened in this age to seed or grain, which is assigned a body by God. The glory that Adam lost was not the heavenly glory of a spiritual body, but the earthly glory of a physical body. Thus, the first kind of body assigned to the seed is earthly as was Adam. However, the sons of God are called, not just to be sons of God as was Adam before he sinned (Luke 1:38), but for the purpose of becoming joint-heirs with Christ. (Romans 8:17) To be joint-heirs with Christ would necessitate that they have the heavenly glory, not the glory that is terrestrial. Nevertheless, apparently the seed being sown can be corrupted until it puts on incorruptibility, thus, as long the new creature has not proven himself incorruptible, as did Jesus, the new creature can still be harmed by the second death, for which there is no sacrifice offered. -- Hebrews 10:18,26-29; Revelation 2:11; 3:21.
I have links to some of my studies related to this at:
jesusnotyhwh.blogspot.com/p/1-corinthians.html#1cor15-35
Nowhere in Paul's discussion regarding the kind of body one is raised with (1 Corinthians 15:35-54) does he say anything to the effect that the soul of a person is not dead, nor does he say anything to the effect that one is raised back into one's former body.
{1 Corinthians 15:35} But someone will say, "How are the dead raised?" and, "With what kind of body do they come?"
{1 Corinthians 15:36} You foolish one, that which you yourself sow is not made alive unless it dies.
{1 Corinthians 15:37} That which you sow, you don't sow the body that will be, but a bare grain, maybe of wheat, or of some other kind.
{1 Corinthians 15:38} But God assigns it [the seed/grain] a body even as it pleases him, and to each seed a body of its own.
{1 Corinthians 15:39} All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one flesh of men, another flesh of animals, another of fish, and another of birds.
{1 Corinthians 15:40} There are also celestial bodies, and terrestrial bodies; but the glory of the celestial differs from that of the terrestrial.
{1 Corinthians 15:41} There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.
{1 Corinthians 15:42} So also is the resurrection of the dead. It [the seed/grain] is sown with corruptibility; it [the seed/grain] is raised with incorruptibility.
{1 Corinthians 15:43} It [the seed/grain] is sown with dishonor; it [the seed/grain] is raised with glory. It [the seed/grain] is sown with weakness; it [the seed/grain] is raised with power.
{1 Corinthians 15:44} It [the seed/grain] is sown with a physical body; it is raised up with a spiritual body. There is a physical body and there is also a spiritual body.
In the context of 1 Corinthians 15:42-44, Paul is answering the questions: "How are the dead raised?" and, "With what kind of body do they come? (1 Corinthians 15:35) He explains that what is being sown now by the new creature is not actually the body that will be in the resurrection, but rather that what is sown he likens to a bare grain, a seed [something similar to an embryo], and that God gives (appoints) to that seed a body as it pleases him, to each seed its own body. He appears to be likening the regenerated son of God in this age to a seed or grain that is being sown. The regenerated seed is first appointed a body as Adam had before Adam sinned. Adam before he sinned, was incorrupt -- upright, but he was corruptible. Adam has not yet proven himself incorruptible. Instead of proving himself to be incorruptible, however, Adam became corrupt, crooked, due to disobedience.
God prepared a body for Jesus that was equal to Adam before Adam sinned. Unlike Adam, however, Jesus remained obedient to his God, and thus did put on incorruption. So with the children of God who become regenerated in this age. They, as being a regenerated seed, are first assigned a body like Jesus' human body, fleshly, not celestial, spiritual. Until they overcome -- prove themselves incorruptible -- as did Jesus, they are incorrupt as new creatures, but they are still corruptible. But the seed is raised, grown, into an incorruptible condition in which it cannot be corrupted. Thus, when the corruptible seed puts on incorruption, for that person, death is swallowed up in victory.
Paul, however, explains that there are two general kinds of bodies with their respective glory, one kind being the fleshly, terrestrial, of the dust, earthly bodies. Elsewhere, man's body terrestrial body of flesh is said to be crowned with a glory that is a little lower than the angels. (Psalm 8:4,5; Hebrews 2:6,7) The human crown of glory spoken of, however, evidently is that glory originally given to Adam that he had before he sinned. When Adam sinned, mankind no longer has that unmarred crown of glory as originally given. All of Adam's descendants, being made (in effect, counted reckoned) as sinners through the disobedience of Adam (Romans 5:12-19), fall short of that glory. (Romans 3:23) Thus, God has subjected all of Adam's offspring to a bondage of corruption. (Romans 8:20,21) Solomon spoke of this saying that what God has made crooked cannot be made straight, referring to man now living under the present sun of vanity. -- Ecclesiastes 1:14,15; 7:13.
Jesus' body of flesh, however, was specially prepared by his God. (Hebrews 10:5) He was not born into this world with Adamic condemnation, and thus he was born into this world with the unmarred glory that Adam had before Adam sinned. Unlike Adam, however, Jesus never fell short of the glory of his God through disobedience, and thus he had the price necessary to offset the condemnation upon Adam and all of Adam's descendants. (1 Corinthians 15:21,22; 1 Timothy 2:5,6; 1 John 2:2; 4:9,10) That is the glory that Jesus had while he was in the days of his flesh. (Hebrews 2:9; 5:7)
The second kind of body that is assigned to the seed/grain of the new creature is a celestial, heavenly, spiritual body. Paul never mixes the glory of earthly, physical bodies with the glory of the spiritual, heavenly bodies. He clearly distinguishes between the two kinds of bodies. Either one is of the heavenly glory or one of the earthly glory; one cannot have both an earthly body of dust and a heavenly body of spirit at the same time.
Thus Paul explains that the first kind of body assigned to the seed of the new creature is not the spiritual, heavenly body, but rather the earthly, fleshly body. Paul elsewhere speaks of this assignment as being in heaven. (2 Corinthians 5:1) Thus, when one becomes regenerated as a son of God, he is likened in this age to seed or grain, which is assigned a body by God. The glory that Adam lost was not the heavenly glory of a spiritual body, but the earthly glory of a physical body. Thus, the first kind of body assigned to the seed is earthly as was Adam. However, the sons of God are called, not just to be sons of God as was Adam before he sinned (Luke 1:38), but for the purpose of becoming joint-heirs with Christ. (Romans 8:17) To be joint-heirs with Christ would necessitate that they have the heavenly glory, not the glory that is terrestrial. Nevertheless, apparently the seed being sown can be corrupted until it puts on incorruptibility, thus, as long the new creature has not proven himself incorruptible, as did Jesus, the new creature can still be harmed by the second death, for which there is no sacrifice offered. -- Hebrews 10:18,26-29; Revelation 2:11; 3:21.
I have links to some of my studies related to this at:
jesusnotyhwh.blogspot.com/p/1-corinthians.html#1cor15-35